| Author | Message |
|---|---|
 Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2015/07/30 11:33:50
right, ive been on this server a while and ive usually never really had an issue with how the staff do their job. but since i have returned i have seen multiple cases of over-punishing. i know its probably not entirely appreciated, me trying to 'change' how staff punish, but over my excperience i have never seen punishments be so extreme.since my return i have had 1 issue with staff and that is tyran, we were all joking around using /kick with silly comments like "tree" (this kick was from BlueRoon, i dont know who it was used on), tyran was aware of what was going on and had no problem with it from what i could see. i later did "/kick Penquinator an internal error occurred (try restarting your game)." clearly it was a joke... penq joined pretty much strait away with "haha yes very funny". tyran decided to temp ban me for 5 minutes. when i returned he told me it was unnacepltable to abuse /kick like that, so i told him to "tell your staff that". if tyran was unhappy with what i did then he should use /jail instead of a temp ban. a temp ban for 5 minutes is utterly useless. anyway so thats not really my head issue... nore is this a compaint this a suggestion.im not entirely bothered with how staff do their job. i just believe some changes could be made. spamming - a player joins the server and spams. i have witnessed this and staff instantly /ban them... really? it is not a physical thing that they have done so just mute them for 2 days or so, if they return and do it again, perm mute. by banning you are just kicking someone out of your community that could, eventually be part of it. spamming an ip adress - again pretty much the same story, except no warning and strait to a perm mute. for now thats all i am a bit curious about, thanks for reading. +1 if you agree |
 stojan44 |
Date sent: 2015/07/30 12:47:22
what? spamming an ip adress means advertizing. That's basically double rule breaking. |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2015/07/30 13:40:54
yes, but it is not a physical rule breaker, bans are there to permanently stop someone griefing/raiding... etc. just something that is physical, which means they cannot return. mute is a more specified form of punishment, it stops them from being racist/sexist etc. but they can still play if they choose to. |
 Penquinator |
Date sent: 2015/07/30 18:38:35
What's the point of having players that join JUST to break rules?If they're bothered they'll create a ban appeal. If they don't and we only mute them for 2 days or ban them for 2 days, all they're gunna do is break rules once they're back. Also once they find out they're muted for 2 days they'll probs won't come back untill the 2 days have passed. |
 MONKEYPAWNED |
Date sent: 2015/07/30 18:50:10
Your mistake was playing around with /kick in the first place... second tyran or any Staff have no buss letting you guys /kick play at all. /kick should be used for its intended purpose...kicking people who behave badly or in defense of one self/land etc.... I don't see anything wrong other then Staff behaving improperly with other players. This behavior is why Staff is not well respected and are not taken seriously. He should have temp ban the Staff along with you...(common sense should rule here) |
 Tyran68 |
Date sent: 2015/07/30 18:58:34
I take the approach that no one should mess around and abuse commands, especially with donators having the kick command, which I think a lot of people agree they shouldn't have. |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2015/07/30 20:20:01
firstly penq, they cant break that rule if they are muted can they... so if they do join then they can only possibly come on knowing that they cant break that rule and just play minecraft. if they dont play then they dont play. we dont need to punish people for something they havent done. like i said before, use your powers as and when they are needed, dont throw it all at them at once.for each rule they break, progress your punishment level. we're all about giving second chances right? or in some cases, 18 chances... |
Penquinator |
Date sent: 2015/07/30 20:23:02
If that player comes on just purposely to break rules, yes, the mute will stop him from spamming. Will it stop them from potentially griefing or breaker further rules? No. In my opinion it's better to not take the chance.The second chance will be when they get unbanned by the ban appeal they make - if they actually care. |
 ckvoss |
Date sent: 2015/07/30 20:33:22
+1 |
stojan44 |
Date sent: 2015/07/30 20:33:38
Staff war! Yas! |
 armzngunz |
Date sent: 2015/07/30 22:35:55
I am 100% against your suggestions on spamming and spamming ip adresses, those people come on for one reason only, to spam and/or advertise. They are not interested in becoming a part of the community and should just be permbanned instantly in order to stop them from spamming the chat. |
 Humble |
Date sent: 2015/07/31 00:19:29
Ok... I saw what happened, and I agree with just about everyone here on something.Armz and Penq - if someone comes on the server and starts spamming / advertising / griefing, before they've even got "citizen" rank... perm-ban them. They're not the kind of people we want here. If someone clearly has no intention of playing nice, why let 'em play at all? You have to earn trust. Tyran - 100% agree with you in principle. And I wouldn't mind losing "kick". Hell, I've objected to it myself. But to me, "abuse" of kick is someone going around kicking random people, or kicking someone to disrupt their game, etc. In other words, the "kick" command isn't the important bit - it's the intent to spoil someone else's day. This wasn't the case in the situation Chip's talking about. It was clearly a joke, Penq was already involved, and nobody was complaining or taking offence (including Penq herself). I just don't think it's good to start punishing "jokes" (malicious pranks excluded - there's a clear distinction in that one is meant to be disruptive and harmful, the other isn't), even if they involve controversial commands like "kick". When people start kicking other people just to be annoying / a--holes, that's abuse. And Chip - I don't think that what you did constituted "abuse", at least by my definition of the term (which I think is a pretty reasonable one). Nonetheless, it's a five minute ban. It's not as though you got kicked for a month or something similar. Five minutes may be annoying but it shouldn't spoil your day. |
MONKEYPAWNED |
Date sent: 2015/07/31 03:20:13
I disagree with you taking away /kick ... its one the only working weapons we have for spammers when staff are not on...Take it away and we have these dips running a muck just like the other day. We had a few players come in and just run havoc on the chat with everything fowl you can think of. I started kicking him as soon as he logged on but they kept coming in and were in a group.... What do you think will happen when Donors don't have kick command and we get animals like the recent ones we have been receiving lately? What I really would like is mute... so we can at least mute them till Staff logs on to get them ban from the server... |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2015/07/31 14:50:48
everyone has their fair views on this subject, everyone staffs differently in some way or another, and everyone will disagree about something in some way...oh and i completely agreee with MONKEYPAWNED. we need like 1 more staff member on at BST or for the staff to work together more to have evenly spread staffing hours (no gaps in a day with no staff). |
MONKEYPAWNED |
Date sent: 2015/07/31 15:08:29
^ what he said...^ we need the gaps closed we still have no Staff or too many.... not good |
 SmoshPokemon101 |
Date sent: 2016/01/01 21:35:43
basically i both agree and disagree at the same time some of the punishments are unfair some are but most of the time its just usually people spamming the chat with innapropriate/rude launguge or caps but like i really dont see why the caps part is fair for a mute or ban. Like its just words on a screen the same letters just slightly diffrent (then again someone will probably write out a "logical" reason why you should use all caps in chat). Probably no one even cares aboout my opionon on any of this which i find rude because im part of this server too so please dont ignore any of my opinions,suggestions,appeals etc. Thank You :) |
 Ivy |
Date sent: 2016/01/09 07:29:18
Chip, Ivy kind of and kind of not agree with you..Staff do what they do so that it isn't encouraged to spam because you'll just get a mute not a ban, Ivy seen it happen on other servers so don't be tricked. /kick means you have a chance to join back in again, however it looks like a ban, if you care for the server you will rejoin, this is another trick to find 'nice drunken people' and 'Mean I-dont-stop-at-nothing people'. Answered Mew~ |
 Dubz |
Date sent: 2016/01/10 13:23:53
Ive seen plugins that kick the player if he/she says a similar phrase X times in a Y period of time. If the player gets kicked for spamming 3 or 4 times in a row then a tempban would be dispensed by the plugin.-Dubz |
 Mumfie |
Date sent: 2016/01/10 15:23:57
Tyran being an abusive little sensitive poop is old news. Didnt he once advertise here? Lol |
 Guiness4 |
Date sent: 2016/01/11 20:39:37
Oh go away this is a shite post again... IF it isnt broken, don't try to fix it |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2016/01/12 10:01:10
Was that aimed at me guiness? Of so then look at when the post was made. This isn't recent. |
 tylermerg |
Date sent: 2016/01/12 23:09:04
+1 if staff overly abused this over and over again i would be annoyed maybe a cooldown for temp banning someone or banning if they bann whoever or kick whoever without reason take away staff privileges |
