| Author | Message |
|---|---|
 jericho7 |
Date sent: 2016/09/30 21:41:55
i think it would be useful if donators could also have /pay. |
 Matodir |
Date sent: 2016/10/01 05:39:56
Economy is shit, it won't improved or get fixed, just use diamonds as payment, just like Fallout 4 for example, that's post apocalyptic and they use bottle caps as currency. |
jericho7 |
Date sent: 2016/10/02 18:04:45
true lol but having /pay is more useful when we actually do need to pay in currency. |
 luigiofthebakery Moderator |
Date sent: 2016/10/03 13:05:25
The economy should have improved somewhat with the new shop system.Donators can still transfer money by withdrawing it in banknotes using /withdraw. |
Matodir |
Date sent: 2016/10/03 13:09:22
Luigi sir, if getting a single damn coin is already hard, wouldn't withdrawing a banknote make you pay some tax? Remove the tax from withdrawing banknotes then maybe I'd change my mind. |
luigiofthebakery Moderator |
Date sent: 2016/10/03 13:10:58
No, that's the whole point. One of the reasons why donators don't have /pay is because it's tax free. Forcing them to use banknotes makes them pay taxes and reduces the incidence of tax evasion. |
 ckvoss |
Date sent: 2016/10/04 00:01:27
Sometimes I would be on minechat and want to pay someone who needs a couple dollars but can't because I can only withdraw. I don't see a point in not having /pay. |
 Xario1 |
Date sent: 2016/10/04 00:35:08
Since this has become a discussion of the server's economy, I would like to say a few things about what is going on with it. On this server, I have been paying a lot of attention to the economy, especially ever since I started my shop, the TowerShop, so I have observed a lot of what has been going on with the economy of this server.Now, all of this is coming from someone who has a lot of knowledge about business and economies, becuase I have taken both Microeconomics and Macroeconomics in college. When it come s to taxing players, it doesn't matter what kind of economy you have, players are always going to try to avoid being taxed, becuase no one likes it when you take away their money. Of course taxes are necessary in economies that have a lot of inflation, but unfortunately Mushroom Co's economy has the opposite, which is deflation. While deflation can cause money to normally have more worth, unfortunately it can also be a sign of an economy that isn't getting anywhere, in other words, money isn't circulating through the economy, and unfortunately this is the case on this server. Now there, are a few reasons for this, one of which is that most players can easily get common items on their own without buying them becuase they are resourceful enough, but the items that they do want are rare and may just be out of their price range which isn't the fault of those who set those prices, but instead the problem comes from actually making the money and getting the money. Which leads me to my next example of why money isn't being circulated enough. Currently there aren't enough ways to actually make money on the server. While the shops are a way to circulate money from player to player, it does not actually make the money out of thin air to put into the economy. It seems that /vote is the only thing at actually does that to put more money into the economy, but many players don't think that /vote is worth it, becuase it only gives you 50 money per vote, which players don't think is much. Now, I don't think the amount that /vote gives you needs to be increased, becuase I don't think that is really a problem. What there does need to be is more ways to make money. Now, I'm not entirely sure how the lottery works and if that pulls money out of nowhere or only gets it from the players, but it often seems like players that win the lottery tend to be defaults who don't even come back on the server. But when it is a player who stills plays, and they spend the money, putting it back into the economy, that can be good. Anyway, other ways that money could be put into the economy and decrease deflation are to: -Have Mods and Admins reward players for reporting a player who is breaking the rules, as long as the player who is reporting has proof of the other player breaking the rules. This would both give players an incentive to help cooperate with staff when it comes to reporting, and will help take some of the work off the staff's shoulders. -When holding events, have there be prizes that are money amounts that players can win, such as with the Olympics or with the upcoming Halloween events that we may be having. -Pay players who have shops a certain amount of money each month to have chests where players can sell their items to the shop. (I will mention more about this below) Of course there are other ways that you can put money into the economy, and I can't think of any other good ways at the moment, but these are just a few. Now, the way that money is made out of thin air, and how not enough of that is made currently, is not the only problem causing deflation and a slow economy on the server. Unfortunately, what is also a problem is under-pricing of items. Everyone knows that consumers(players who buy things from shops) would prefer to buy items for the cheapest price they can find, and that selling things for cheap is a good way for shops to undercut their competition. Unfortunately this has been happening a lot on the server, and in an economy that has a deflation problem, this can make it worse. What pricing items for as low as possible does it essentially devalue those items, which makes it harder for some shops to compete as well as makes less money circulate. Becuase of under-pricing, consumers pay less for items and sellers receive less, meaning that less money circulates with each transaction and also causes shops that actually value the items that they are selling to receive nothing since another shop is selling the same items for less, even if their prices are reasonable. So if this happens, that means that players with a lot of money already will keep their most of their money, and players that don't have much money will not get much, if any money. Unfortunately under-pricing can also occur when it comes to players selling items to shops. An example of this is CherishedGhost's chests where players sell stacks of blocks for about 5 money per stack. This also devalues items greatly and gives players very little amounts of money for doing so much work, when they could be getting more. The best solution to these problems of under-pricing would to be to set a price floor that users cannot sale items for less than a minimum price, that way under-pricing does not cause deflation to become worse, and circulates more money in the economy. Now, I know that you might think that becuase I have a shop, I might say some of these things to benefit myself, but the original purpose of my shop was to provide a general store in which players can find almost every item in one place, not to make myself money, even though it does make a small amount at the moment. But recently, I still haven't been concerned with making myself money, becuase I don't normally buy things from other shops. Instead, what I have done is turned my shop into a money circulator. Recently within the last month I have added some chests where players can sell some of their items to me for mostly reasonable amounts, becuase I plan to use those items later and shops don't currently sell those items. Anyway, those are my thoughts on how the server's economy could be improved |
