| Author | Message |
|---|---|
 galbby5 |
Date sent: 2016/12/04 21:00:40
Now I'm not a master at CoreProtect, but I've seen it used before. Couldn't everyone have access to /co i? it would make it easier for regular players to investigate griefs or rule breaks, rather than having the staff rush over from the other side of the server. |
 DreemurrTheDreamer |
Date sent: 2016/12/05 02:54:01
this would be great, but i think giving it to everyone would be a bit excessive. maybe giving it to donator ranks and above (VIP+, Builder, Donator+, Mod...) |
 ckvoss |
Date sent: 2016/12/05 03:28:42
There are pros and cons to this, but I think it is an alright idea. +0.5 |
 CloudyBogdan |
Date sent: 2016/12/05 05:06:14
I agree. It is helpful for people to see who griefed.+1 |
 Emily98 |
Date sent: 2016/12/05 08:59:15
Help me out here, I can imagine there being some cons to this, but I can't quite see them myself. |
 Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2016/12/05 11:49:55
The only issue i can see with this, is it would cause so much bitching / drama / false rumors.But the fact is, it would literally be pointless. why exactly do you need it? Staff are always available, I made sure of that when i fixed the staff board when i was Owner. It's the staff's duty to make sure players are treated correctly and attend to issues as soon as possible, and i am confident that the current staff board accomplish this. But your question still remains, why do only staff have it? Well that is a good question, and the answer is simple; Staff are trusted with this information to not publicly shame rule breakers, and can actually put the information into action. Ordinary players have no use for /co i without the ability to punish a player. That leads us the the entire reason we have staff, they are ordinary players, but with the permissions to settle disputes and punish rule breakers. That's the only difference. |
DreemurrTheDreamer |
Date sent: 2016/12/05 12:09:57
staff are not always available. when i am on during my later hours (1AM-5AM EST), there are usually no staff online, with the exception of susan, who is afk a lot of the time anyway. during that time period, there are a lot of times where a staff member could be very useful, which is one of the reasons i applied for staff.giving certain players /co i to see who the hell took their nether wart crops (whoever keeps doing it, please stop), could be useful and convenient. i don't see the issue with spreading the information about someone fire griefing, because it would warn other players to stay away from that person until they are banned. players having /co i would also let them inform staff quicker. for example, if i were fire griefed, and i didn't have /co i to find out who did it, and there were no staff online to tell, it would take longer for me to communicate to them to let them know that someone griefed me, nevermind even knowing who it is yet. if i had /co i, i could simply just let people know who did it, and it would be a lot easier and more efficient to punish the player who did so. |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2016/12/05 12:33:53
[DreemurrTheDreamer wrote]:"staff are not always available. when i am on during my later hours (1AM-5AM EST), there are usually no staff online" Let me rephrase - Staff are always available, but not necessarily online. just message them on skype or on the forum and it will be dealt with. [DreemurrTheDreamer wrote]: "i don't see the issue with spreading the information about someone fire griefing, because it would warn other players to stay away from that person until they are banned." It is one thing to be punished, but it is another to be publicly shamed. We don't condone the sharing of information which is not needed to be shared. You don't need to stay away from someone just because they may have fire griefed, that's ridiculous. Heck, they may have even done it accidentally. You don't have the power to further investigate and understand, therefor you shouldn't go around telling people they are bad news. [DreemurrTheDreamer wrote]: "players having /co i would also let them inform staff quicker." The time that would be saved would be absolutely minuscule. "someone griefed me" takes 5 seconds to type, and a further 5 seconds for the staff member to tp and see who it was. "if i had /co i, i could simply just let people know who did it, and it would be a lot easier and more efficient to punish the player who did so." what you are describing, is a level of trust which only inner staff members have. Also this comes back to my point made earlier, you dont have the permissions to fully investigate, there is more to staffing than just looking at a single block with a small bit of information on it. Plus, it would be easy for a player to edit a screenshot, go onto their own server and forge evidence for a screenshot.. etc. I don't think this suggesion holds any real need, and rather is seen by players such as yourself Asriel, as a cool thing to play around with "wow i feel like a staff member!" |
DreemurrTheDreamer |
Date sent: 2016/12/05 12:42:43
"It is one thing to be punished, but it is another to be publicly shamed." - yeah, i know how both feel like. trust me, you know."Staff are always available, but not necessarily online. just message them on skype or on the forum and it will be dealt with." - if a staff member isn't online, it most like means they are busy with something else more important, taking a break, or sleeping. i wouldn't want to wake armz up with skype message if he's sleeping just because of something that happened on the server. "and rather is seen by players such as yourself Asriel, as a cool thing to play around with "wow i feel like a staff member!"" - and that was just an asshole comment. i don't feel like this command would be a plaything, i see it as something that could make catching griefers way faster and more efficient. after how many times i have been griefed, i think this would be useful to find out who the hell is doing it. and adding the "wow i feel like a staff member" at the end was a real dick move. i'm not trying to be a backseat staff, but i am trying to help the community in ways. |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2016/12/05 12:49:05
[DreemurrTheDreamer wrote]:"if a staff member isn't online, it most like means they are busy with something else more important, taking a break, or sleeping. i wouldn't want to wake armz up with skype message if he's sleeping just because of something that happened on the server." Create a forum topic. Ask yourself this: "Why do no survival servers that are ran by a hierarchy, give /co i to players?" Answer: because there is no need, staff are there to do it for you. |
DreemurrTheDreamer |
Date sent: 2016/12/05 13:13:26
that's because any normal server has more than 1 staff member on at a time, so there is a 99% chance you can get what you need from a staff member at the time that you need it. i have been on hundreds of other servers before, and trust me, the way those servers are run make webb look like the scum of the internet. no offense, but the staffing is kinda shit |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2016/12/05 13:16:34
not to be rude or anything, but if you hate this server so much and dont like how it is run.. why don't you go?the fact of the matter is, you arent getting /co i. no use in arguing your point. |
Emily98 |
Date sent: 2016/12/05 13:57:31
Asriel you need to hold right there. You add comments like that in every other post you make. Chip is actually right on this one (right, never seen that before) if there's no staff to actually investigate the sitaution, there's no need for you to do it on your own. Sure, it would be nice in some cases (like your nether wart farm where you are 100% sure it's a grief since you're the only one using it) but with the amount of times people have yelled "grief" and it turned out to be another misunderstanding, I wouldn't want the players running around claiming to have "evidence" of grief all the time. That was probably all badly worded, but you get my point. |
DreemurrTheDreamer |
Date sent: 2016/12/05 14:04:24
@chip - i don't care if i get the command or not. i was just stating the advantages for everyone if we were able to use the command. i swear, every hair on my head matters more to me than if i get the command or not. |
ckvoss |
Date sent: 2016/12/06 23:39:00
I think this should be a reward for a vote token. |
JohnnyBobOfficial |
Date sent: 2016/12/07 06:47:13
good idea ck |
