3 complains in 1 topic. Please read.

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Happyfarmer69
Date sent: 2017/02/04 09:48:38
Hello dear players of Mushroom.co.uk. I have some complains about the server that I would like to share with you.
Complain #1: After my return on server Ive noticed that some staff member are not active. The 2 staff members that Ive noticed being innactive mostly are Ckvoss and AcetheGreat98. Ace has not been online for almost a weak 6 days and 18 hours like an donator said after using /seen. Ckvoss in the other hand has been on recently but he only came on for 1 minute (minechat) and left and that one time that Ive seen him on he was afk all the time. I have no personal problems with any one of them and I can say that I like them as players but they are not capable for staff seats because they are not dedicated at all to the server.
Complain #2: A lot of times on the server many people has been complaining about lag in the same time. Server lag has been a pain for many players lately. I assume and believe (thanks to my older experiences of lag) that the main reasson that people are lagging is because people are being afk for many hours next to spawner farm and the production of mobs from the spawner is likely the main reasson of the lag. Ive seen on other servers that they have plugins about this issue. There has been a plugin that if people are afk for more than half an hour the server would kick them. I think this is reassonable.
Complain #3: The server market is dying. There is no shop that people can sell their profucts and their only way to make money is via voting but the money are not enough. Some people has tried to make a shop that players would be able to sell their products but they have failed because there are many players that need money so the owner would be left with no money. Some people believe that people that need money they should make a shop but i think that there is no meaning of everyone making a shop because if we all make a shop noone would buy from shops(because they will already have a shop on their own) so the market will die faster.For this topic I have a suggestion. I think that if it was a server shop with reassonable prices for selling that the server market will rise again.

Please let me know if you have other suggestions about these complains.
Also let me know if you agree or disagree with the reassons that drove me to complains section.

-Chriss
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madzahttr
Date sent: 2017/02/04 10:07:31
./warp shop mate sell ur stuff there, if you want to build ur own shop you can either at spawn or somewhere and get a warp set
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Happyfarmer69
Date sent: 2017/02/04 10:40:19
Dude i said that if we all make a shop the market will die faster because noone will buy from other's shops. You clearly did not understand what I said. Please read it again before you comment once again.
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luigiofthebakery
Moderator
Date sent: 2017/02/04 10:41:37
1. If you think there is a lack of staff in a specific timezone, send a screenshot of the players online in that time so I can choose new staff members. However, I haven't really noticed any times where there's no staff online.

2. In the past few days I only counted a few 5 minute increments where the TPS was low, and usually it was just an intermittent spike, so there haven't long periods of lag, and hence I don't think the issue would be afk players. The only way to find out is having a staff member run timings at that time.

3. I don't think the server market is dying. The old warp shop has been opened again so people can sell items for free. People who have made their own shops and most have been making money from them. As long as this money keeps circulating in the economy it should be fine. The reason we don't have a static server shop anymore where the prices are always the same is because that can be abused and ruins the economy since it has infinite demand. Anyone who made an auto farm could essentially get infinite money by continuously exchanging items for the same price.
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DreemurrTheDreamer
Date sent: 2017/02/04 10:59:26
luigi, about 10PM - 1AM EST ('murica), there are little to no staff online. i have noticed this as this is the time i am usually on
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Happyfarmer69
Date sent: 2017/02/04 11:00:22
Thank you Luigi for taking under consideration my complains and for replying that fast.
About number 1 I'll look forward on doing this(the screenshots) but I think that what i said about the two staff members can be proved by other players too.
Also about number 2 I have no further things to say. I just stated what Ive noticed. That might was a coincidence.
Well basically number 3 is a topic that people would argue mostly. Since Im on server since 7th of july 2014 I am used to another system of the server economy and I prefered that system and thats why I made this complain. I wouldnt post it on its own but since Ive had 2 other complains I thought about saying this one too.
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Happyfarmer69
Date sent: 2017/02/04 11:02:26
@DreemurrTheDreamer When you get online I do and Ive noticed the same thing.
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Harvey
Date sent: 2017/02/04 11:13:06
This guy is making it really hard for me to be nice
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madzahttr
Date sent: 2017/02/04 11:18:16
Harvoo get ur cancer outa here
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Happyfarmer69
Date sent: 2017/02/04 11:45:30
5 minutes ago a hacker was on server but there were no staff members.
http://prnt.sc/e4d1vw
http://prnt.sc/e4d1vp

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Happyfarmer69
Date sent: 2017/02/04 11:52:24
Nvm. Susan was in /vanish.
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ckvoss
Date sent: 2017/02/04 12:26:31
I have been very busy recently, as staff already know. A lot of bowling, work, and different doctor appointments all crammed my day. I have been getting on more though. I am very dedicated to this server as most other staff are.
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Matodir
Date sent: 2017/02/04 13:00:20
"Anyone who made an auto farm could essentially get infinite money by continuously exchanging items for the same price."
So? He did some hard work and put extra effort in making an auto farm, it's only fair that he can be rewarded. Say you work extra hard at work and you get a good promotion, you're going to get paid more forever unless you resign or get demoted.

Promotion at work = More money forever
Effort in making an efficient farm = More money forever

Why can you not see reason in this Luigi? You're not stupid.
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Ruben
Date sent: 2017/02/05 00:37:58
Sorry to say this Matt, but your logic is shit. So basically someone who just made an auto farm (that is not even that hard to do ---> YOUTUBE DUH) should be rewarded with infinite money which will lead to breaking the economy? Most farms on this server resulting from a spawner are game breaking and even those who are not, like enderman farms (XP) and guardian farms are typically game exploits which shouldn't be used. Ok it is clever to use the game mechanics on your side but it's still cheating tbh, making the drops worthless and the game unchallenging.
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NicNac
Date sent: 2017/02/05 04:56:09
What's stopping you from making an automatic farm Ruben?

Matt I agree with you 100%. Let's say someone comes on and sells 10,000 wheat to the static shop and gets $7,000 (I know the prices aren't realistic). So he has 7 grand, now what. Another player could be selling elytra for 2 grand each and the guy with $7,000 could buy em, and get 3 elytras. Cool, so now the guy selling has 6 grand, and the one buying has 1 grand and 3 elytras. He could sell em again, at a lower price, or continue getting more money. The only problem I could see with static shops is people outbuying player shops as soon as they are stocked.

TL;DR: I don't see the problem with a static shop.

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DreemurrTheDreamer
Date sent: 2017/02/05 07:11:29
@happyfarmer

i'm on for at least half of the day, but i have no schedule. i sometimes wake up at 12PM and go to sleep at 10PM, or sometimes i wake up at midnight and stay up for 3 days straight. the time i'm most active on the server is about 90$ of my time awake.
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Matodir
Date sent: 2017/02/05 08:13:56
Ah thank you Nic, at least someone sees my logic that I have been trying to tell you guys for months, since luigi removed server shop.

And Nic, you said "The only problem I could see with static shops is people outbuying player shops as soon as they are stocked."

Firstly, if I have a small shop selling 20 stacks of stone, who is going to need all those unless they're building a farm? And frankly, if someone does buy them all, I will be bloody happy. I mean I made the shop solely for people to buy from it and I get money. What's better than someone buying all of it?

Also, I edited this reply to add this example. Luigi says we would break the economy, which is a valid point. Except for one thing, in america there are poor people with no homes, average people with average home, then you see donald trump, a multi billionaire with pretty much every man would ever want. Doesn't mean that america's economy is totally fucked beyond repair.
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NicNac
Date sent: 2017/02/05 08:16:51
You see! There is literally no hugely impacting negative. The guy who has his stone bought gets the money. Frankly I'd be happy with that. And if you don't want easy items, then simply don't. It's honestly not that hard to grasp.

Edit: Everyone always brings up easy money, but that easy money is accessible by everyone. Everyone having lots of money is not different than everyone having no money. The economy is not working well enough, and re enabling the server shop is a perfect fix.
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luigiofthebakery
Moderator
Date sent: 2017/02/06 15:01:09
When people make auto farms, they can essentially get an infinite amount of an item, which as ruben said, is bad enough for gameplay and makes those items essentially worthless. If they can be sold to a static shop, that player can then get infinite money, which makes money essentially worthless. There goes the whole notion of an economy: if money is worthless, it can't be exchanged for anything, there's no point in obtaining it, and there's no point in having shops use it.
Now, only some people used to exploit the economy, which meant that money still had value to the people who didn't. However this wasn't very fair or realistic. Realistically, in order to sell items, there has to be a buyer for those items, and the interaction of supply and demand dictates the price. The old server shop had an infinite demand, which means that no matter how much supply there was, the price remained the same. This leads to people exploiting it to get an unrealistic price for their items.

The current server shop is much more realistic, it has a more realistic supply and demand, prevents people from getting infinite money, and facilitates production of items people actually want to buy.
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Beetley
Date sent: 2017/02/07 01:13:20
Chriisssss baby!!!!! Haaaiiii! <3
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Happyfarmer69
Date sent: 2017/02/08 20:01:55
Hey Beetle bb! <3

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