| Author | Message |
|---|---|
 Karbs |
Date sent: 2017/09/07 22:28:41
Hello, my name is Karbs and I wanted to bring a topic that I had been thinking about for a bit now. Everyone by now probably knows about the map reset, but for some reason there is no faction reset (what I was told) accompanying it. I feel to have a clean server reset there is need to be a faction one too. One of the reasons being that many factions have over 100 or 200 players, but you only see 3 or 4 online at once. Having big empty factions just does not give out good vibes and just might seem messy. Having a faction reset would allow for factions to be remade, making them smaller and giving more of a tight knit community feel. Also, reseting the factions would allow for people new factions to rise and different stories to be formed. If we keep the same factions after the reset it will be a bit boring. Even though the map reset has happened and it gives new opportunity, you will still be with the same people or doing the same sort of thing you were doing last map. This will allow people to branch out and form new faction with different people if they wish without feeling pressured to not leave their current faction. It will clear out the system of old factions that just sit their to dissolve in the dust. If there is no reset, many factions that do not play anymore will be integrated into the new map, and since they will not have any claimed territory or land because no one plays from their faction, it will just be a waste of space in the /f list and make it seem as if the server is overstuffed with factions. Sure you might lose a bit of history but that comes with any map reset. Change is good. Secondly, many people will probably say "Oh but if I wanna keep my faction I have to re invite everybody" or "I will lose all my power so no," but those are simple things that can be fixed. First re inviting people is not that hard, just do /f invite. Second admins can easily restore you power that you need. This will also take away all the OP power from those big factions that just over claim. It will put people back in their place and let power be distributed efficiently. Thank you if you made it through all of this, and I hope you can agree. If not a reason so I can understand why. I truly do believe that this can be beneficial towards the server. Karbs |
 Presinus |
Date sent: 2017/09/08 01:26:34
Omfg +1 all the way |
 OfficalMinoi |
Date sent: 2017/09/08 22:45:43
-1 |
Karbs |
Date sent: 2017/09/08 22:51:20
I will not even consider Wones -1. He said he -1'ed just because it was my post (he does not like me), and he told me he was not going to read it. Grow up |
Presinus |
Date sent: 2017/09/09 04:45:52
Ikr? How Minoi reads forum topics: Hi, I'm Karbs! Leave a +1 if you like me, or a -1 if you dislike me! |
 belgnbor |
Date sent: 2017/09/12 00:32:01
-1 Some factions have been here through multiple map resets and have special meaning to the owners of those factions. People are free to come and go from factions as they please. I for one want the same name kept for my faction, it has meaning to me and I don't see the need to change it. On a map reset I do believe everything should be back to zero and re-creation of those factions should start afresh. Refreshing power can be a pain in the butt as some factions have multiple locations that they need protected during a maps lifetime. At the beginning of the current map there were no factions, everyone had to re-create them. Like I said on another post, staff have to be more generous with power to smaller factions who want to stay small and not be disadvantaged by not adding tons of people to their faction. |
Karbs |
Date sent: 2017/09/12 18:45:35
First, I realize that maybe some factions might have some history to it and be cherished by their owners, but I do not think people will go as far as to say their factions have a special meaning in their life. I mean this is a block game, I do not think people take it so seriously, so they would not mind a faction reset. The only reason they would care or not is so that they do not lose all their power. Secondly, no one is going to steal your faction name if there is a faction reset, so I do not understand your reasoning there. I also think that is not that hard for admins to give power back to factions, it only takes a couple of minutes or so. And even so if it might take a bit, its not like someone is going to directly target your base and grief everything if you do not get it on time. Also I am not sure why you included "At the beginning of the current map there were no factions, everyone had to re-create them." I do not see your argument there, its rather just a statement. So to sum it up: Most people will not be so emotionally attached to their faction as you describe it; you can just recreate the same faction you had previously if there is a faction reset, because no one will probably steal your name; power is easy to restore so I am not sure why it is a pain in the butt. |
 loki570023 |
Date sent: 2017/09/13 00:03:25
While I get what youre saying Karbs, I dont think you quite understand. If you do /f list on the server, there are a 180 PAGES of factions. You are tlaking about completely removing ALL OF THEM. Thats a bit much to worry about, so many factions staff will have to pay attention to after the reset to restore their power etc etc. While not all of those are active, its true, a good many are with only 1 or 2 people. And, you are mistaken to think most people arent attached to their faction. Many people, especially the leaders of the factions, are extremely attached to factions theyve been with for years, myself included. |
Presinus |
Date sent: 2017/09/13 01:13:14
Lifehax: After the server and faction reset, create a new faction with the exact same name and description as the one you had before the reset. |
Karbs |
Date sent: 2017/09/13 18:18:31
Okay loki let me address what you are you saying. First of all, if you ever look at the /f list of the factions actually online, its about 1-2 pages, so honestly it will not be that hard for staff to replace factions power in my opinion. Staff are also meant to help the server in any way, so they should not be complaining about resetting power, since they should know the challenges in their work when they applied. Also, the rest of the 178 pages of /f list are factions that do not play anymore so I do not know why are you including them. Do you really think that all those abandoned factions will be recreated and ask for power to be given back to them. The point of the faction reset is to get rid of the factions clogging up the f list and breathe new life into the server. Secondly, if you are so attached to your faction all you have to do is /f create and just remake your faction, use the same desc, and ask for some power to claim. There will be barely a difference between your faction before the reset if you just follow these steps. |
 armzngunz |
Date sent: 2017/09/14 03:29:17
I usually disband and recreate Hyperion every map reset because the inactive players annoy me, and all the land claimed in the old map will still be claimed for a while, which is also annyoing |
 Pheo |
Date sent: 2017/09/14 07:35:18
The factions were reset last time were they not? |
belgnbor |
Date sent: 2017/09/15 04:06:20
Sorry karbs maybe I read it wrong but it sounded like you wanted factions reset while the map is still active, this would cause heaps of problems. At the beginning of a new map I expect they all will be wiped to be reclaimed again clean of members. I am also remembering the beginning of this map when staff were very touchy about giving out power to smaller factions. Certain stuff like spawners and farms need constant protection and cant afford to be left unclaimed as they get griefed and also others set homes within them, reaping them of there loot which your faction may use as a money earner. |
 luigiofthebakery Moderator |
Date sent: 2017/09/15 07:13:02
Pheo that was only because the last map reset was forced because the data was lost. Factions have only been reset for the 2nd, 4th and 7th maps. |
Karbs |
Date sent: 2017/09/15 18:37:33
Belg, to respond to you I do not want a factions reset during this current map, rather when the map reset happens, so that we could have a new map and new factions. Also, I am certain that most staff are not as stingy with power as you describe them.This is for the reason of one staff member, who I simply asked for a bit more power to claim, boosted me from 90 power to 500, which was well over enough to claim my whole base and more. This shows that if the faction reset does happen, it will not that hard to get the sufficient power you need for your faction. To add on, what is your state on the factions reset for the next map luigi? |
OfficalMinoi |
Date sent: 2017/09/16 17:08:38
im changing my -1 to a big +1 |
OfficalMinoi |
Date sent: 2017/09/16 17:13:37
im changing my -1 to a big +1 |
 Michael9999995 |
Date sent: 2017/09/17 03:50:45
+1. I would love to have the honor of rebuilding proxima to its former glory. And this is saying something for me to want this, do you people know how long it took to get 325 members? |
belgnbor |
Date sent: 2017/09/18 00:37:13
Ok +1 if done on next map reset, but owners of current factions and well known warps should have the right to keep those factions etc in the next map reset and not have them stolen by someone else just because they may not be on in the first day or so of map reset. |
