Ckvoss and tones1208

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LucaB2007	Date sent: 2017/09/13 20:25:11 Ck is definitely in my opinion, and obviously a few others’ (from asking around) least favourite staff member. He is a great guy, but when it comes to staff it has changed him. He tries too hard- he can’t take a joke anymore. He takes everything seriously and especially when it is anything to do with his rank. He is pretty funny sometimes on the forums but most of the time he doesnt have a sense of humor. Another example of him trying to be like luigi or harry, is him commenting this on Ruminisque’s ban appeal- give us solid evidence why you hacked I’m not sure ck but i hope you realise that he cant give you “solid evidence” of WHY he hacked. You could ask for solid evidence that he either didnt hack or has removed the hacks. Communication is a big thing in staffing, and being able to do it right should be first priority. This includes being able to take a joke. Another less liked staff member is Susan. Unlike ck, I feel like susans issue requires immediate action. There have been multiple times when susan has allowed spammers to continue to spam, or griefers to continue to grief because she is too scared to take action. Instead, (this is not an exaggeration, its happened dozens of tiems) she tells them thst when armz gets on HE will ban them. If your too scared to take action, then thats a big issue. Another thing about susan is that like ck she cant take a joke. She will say that armz will mute you when he gets on for the littlest of things, such as three words in capital letters. Harry- if your commited to fixing the staff team then these are your biggest issues. Make a change and it will improve and if you dont, which is most likely then continue to watch players leave the server.
Aouldrain	Date sent: 2017/09/13 21:01:10 Idk about the Susan thing, but CK is a tryhard asslicker now. <3 CK
Presinus	Date sent: 2017/09/14 01:07:59 The "provide solid evidence on why you hacked" thing was obviously a joke, for one. For two, Ck is one of my favourite staff. Whatever you're going on about; it never happened when I was around to witness it. For three, I agree with your observations on Tones.
ckvoss	Date sent: 2017/09/14 01:16:14 who even are you
ckvoss	Date sent: 2017/09/14 01:22:28 I can take a joke, I just get annoyed when people are being annoying and i'm really stressed with irl stuff and i ask them calmly to stop as i'm stressed and they keep going... To clear it up with anyone who still thinks I suck up to Luigi, Armz, and Chip: If we both agree on the same thing, how is that sucking up? Staff should know what's best for the server and if the staff agree than it's probably the best for it. your "example" is something that happened a long time ago. And as staff i can have the ability to tell them what they should do to get unbanned. I also miss-typed it and didn't have editing powers back then, and i'm too lazy to do now :P
Tones	Date sent: 2017/09/14 01:25:31 Last time I dealt with a spammer was months ago though and I dealt with that swiftly, I haven't been on recently enough to have dealt with anything. Griefers? Since when you I allow them to grief? When someone says 'look I'm griefing' I teleport while invisible to check it out majority of the time they are just at the rules board. I can take a joke, but if it comes out of no where then you can expect I wont take it as one. And to my knowledge I've only pulled the 'I'll tell armz' card only once, but if i've used it anymore, its been for jokes. You have made the 'issue' of me seem horrifyingly bad. '3 words in caps' I'm fine with a minimum of 4 words in caps unless said person had used them too much before. I also deal with my own problems thank you very much. As for ck, he does have a sense of humour, its just when people joke online and you can't hear a voice behind the words its harder to interpret it as a joke. I agree the part of "give us proof why you hacked" should've been "give us proof you hadn't hacked" but other than that nothing you said has been proven by screenshots or anything. Evidence is a key importance in reporting players; video, screenshots, recordings, anything and your case could've been easily proven or disproven. I also barely see you on now and to be honest, I don't even remember your username.
loki570023	Date sent: 2017/09/14 05:53:33 So. Wanna explain why you didnt use your main account jordan? http://webbcraft.co.uk/forum/read_topic.php?id=7419
Presinus	Date sent: 2017/09/14 11:49:21 Busted
Matodir	Date sent: 2017/09/14 16:17:57 Jordan, at least half this post is riddled with bullshit, and I will point out why. Before I start; anything I will say from now on is only about ck, I haven't seen susan on in like a decade so I can't really judge her. Okay so first of all, ck is one of the most staff members that can take a joke. I don't know if you've been on in the past few weeks, but you should see me and ck fucking with each other when we're pvping. It's like he's not a staff anymore at that time, excluding maybe 1 or 2 I don't think any other staff would do what ck does with me during our pvp. You also mention the instance when ck told Rum to show him solid evidence of why he hacked, clearly a joke. Or you in reality can't take a joke just like you claimed ck doesn't? Communication, ck does that best, I said so in my first paragraph about our pvp. He jokes with everyone, and when I'm on everyone seems to love ck. Now don't include that common 9 year old kid who hates ck for a reason even the kid himself doesn't understand and his 6 year old brother who hates ck cause his big brother does. If you actually believe that most people hate ck, I will make a post asking people about their opinion about ck in general to prove you otherwise. All this is about ck, haven't seen susan enough to judge her.
CaptainSpaceSheep	Date sent: 2017/09/14 20:40:00 My keyboard glitched out for the second time in a row trying to post this. I’ll post screenshots of what the post said.
CaptainSpaceSheep	Date sent: 2017/09/14 20:42:43 https://postimg.org/gallery/ou709m6e/
CaptainSpaceSheep	Date sent: 2017/09/14 20:43:01 https://postimg.org/gallery/ou709m6e/
ckvoss	Date sent: 2017/09/14 22:14:42 On Rum's ban appeal, it was a typo of what i said. It was late, i was tired, i saw the appeal and just had to reply, I said: If you can tell us why you hacked and give us solid evidence why you hacked, then you have a chance of being unbanned When i meant to say was If you can tell us why you hacked and give us solid evidence that you don't hack anymore, then you have a chance of being unbanned This also was over 5 months ago... Pretty irrelevant evidence. On one of your screenshots, you said "About pr1tcd No excuses for this one" It was proven by multiple people multiple times that he was in the wrong. I even gave logs.
CaptainSpaceSheep	Date sent: 2017/09/15 02:23:49 thats where my keyboard stopped. I was replying to what mat said about pr1, saying that i agreed gut my keyboard glitched half way through, and i couldnt send it, which is why i took a screenshot. By “no excuses for this one” i was talking about myself.
ckvoss	Date sent: 2017/09/15 23:34:41 Ah, okay. Thanks for clearing that up.
OfficalMinoi	Date sent: 2017/09/16 01:23:11 In my opinion, I don't understand why Susan is staff. She's inactive, she is extremely rude for no reason, she is quick tempered, and I have never seen her help anyone. As for ckvoss, I completely agree. I have proof of ck changing his opinion in favor of staff. If you go to my complaint against Tom abusing, ck was completely quick to defend Tom and merely WEEKS later, once tom was demoted, ck suddenly doesn't like him anymore. Also, when chip told Abdullah to kill himself,ck said it was out of context, so we asked him how it was out of context, then he refused to answer and told us to stop talking to him. Whether or not chip was justified to say that or whether or not there was a backstory that I or anyone else doesn't know about doesn't matter. The point is, ck defended chip without even knowing about what happened. Agreeing with someone has nothing to do with it. Taking their side before knowing the context of the situation isn't agreeing with them, its kissing up. Another time was one I jokingly -1'd chips old ban appeal, clearly a joke, and of course, ck took it seriously while everyone else had a laugh. I also think ck is very very biased. If you get into an argument with someone he's friends with, he won't listen to your side. All of this is my personal opinion, im not trying to be toxic, I have to add that in because otherwise some people might take it the other way
OfficalMinoi	Date sent: 2017/09/16 01:43:35 In my opinion, I don't understand why Susan is staff. She's inactive, she is extremely rude for no reason, she is quick tempered, and I have never seen her help anyone. As for ckvoss, I completely agree. I have proof of ck changing his opinion in favor of staff. If you go to my complaint against Tom abusing, ck was completely quick to defend Tom and merely WEEKS later, once tom was demoted, ck suddenly doesn't like him anymore. Also, when chip told Abdullah to kill himself,ck said it was out of context, so we asked him how it was out of context, then he refused to answer and told us to stop talking to him. Whether or not chip was justified to say that or whether or not there was a backstory that I or anyone else doesn't know about doesn't matter. The point is, ck defended chip without even knowing about what happened. Agreeing with someone has nothing to do with it. Taking their side before knowing the context of the situation isn't agreeing with them, its kissing up. Another time was one I jokingly -1'd chips old ban appeal, clearly a joke, and of course, ck took it seriously while everyone else had a laugh. I also think ck is very very biased. If you get into an argument with someone he's friends with, he won't listen to your side. All of this is my personal opinion, im not trying to be toxic, I have to add that in because otherwise some people might take it the other way
Karbs	Date sent: 2017/09/16 12:02:30 Minoi, I know we might have our differences but I agree with what you are saying. Tones seems a bit unfit to be staff since she is dealing with so many problems in her own life. If she was not staff anymore it would probably give her time to focus on her own problems and would also free up space for more active members. I have no hate towards Ck though.
ckvoss	Date sent: 2017/09/16 15:16:53 Okay Wones, let me just explain this for the 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000th time how your statements are wrong. About Tom: You were punished by Tom for a good reason. Later, I didn't take Tom's side because that would be biased. What he did was wrong. And i know he was wrong. Me and tom a couple weeks later is a reason that I'm not biased, not that i am. "ck suddenly doesn't like him anymore" I didn't like him because of how much he changed for the worse. Not because he isn't staff I didn't tell you what Chip's side of the story because I didn't know if he was comfortable with me sharing that information yet. About Chip and Sumro: Chip told me and all staff that Sumro was bullying him and said bad things to him so he told Sumro to kill himself. I then heard Sumro's story that Chip told him to kill himself out of nowhere. So, Chip's story made 1000000x times more sense. People were saying that Sumro was 100% in the right and chip was in the 100% wrong. I knew what happened, and you constantly say i didn't. I heard both sides, and i picked the right one. I took it seriously when you replied on Chip's old ban appeal because you bumped an old topic... Like I've said, you shouldn't have been unbanned. You played it cool acting all nice and 2 weeks after you got unbanned you turned back into normal toxic annoying minoi.
OfficalMinoi	Date sent: 2017/09/16 15:55:57 ahaha i state my opinion and im labled as toxic you have no problem with everyone else saying criticism when I do it, OH HOLY SHIT MINOI IS BACK TO HIS OLD WAYS OH NO then you have people like susan calling me a shithole and nobody bats an eye thats just how it works
ckvoss	Date sent: 2017/09/16 18:21:06 Im not talking about just this minoi. You are always toxic on the forums and ingame. And that's your only reply? Hmm. Guess your "examples of me being a suck up" is just lies after all. Like most of the stuff you say.
OfficalMinoi	Date sent: 2017/09/16 20:23:54 So, you called me toxic for making a claim about you, then when I don't further make the claim, you say I have no other examples and im a liar. I cant even with this guy
ckvoss	Date sent: 2017/09/16 20:46:02 Me calling you toxic was from a different topic. You are a liar because I've constantly told you reasons why your 2 examples are wrong, and you told me that you have a ton of examples of me "sucking up to staff"
OfficalMinoi	Date sent: 2017/09/17 01:08:36 Well didn't I just list like three things in my paragraph? Did you read it?
Presinus	Date sent: 2017/09/17 02:28:14 Yeah, I like Quickpop way better than Wones. Is there a way you could revert back to your calm, sweet, non-opinionated alter-ego?
Vango971	Date sent: 2017/09/17 09:22:31 #BringBackQuickPop Anyway, yeah I agree with Minoi, if stuffs getting to stressful outside of the game, then go deal with that. I've had to do it. And seriously ck, you label wones toxic simply because you don't agree with him. His points are valid and it shows that you ck are below him, as he can take a hit and hit harder, whereas you go down on the first blow. I know from staff you are a suckup piece of crap, you always agreed with Chip or Luigi, no matter what, then when you realise that they were wrong, you change sides and yell at anyone who disagrees with you. To be honest, people don't like you ingame. They are just scared that you'll mute or ban them for sticking out..((Predicted reply) YOu HAVS NO EVDENCE I AMS BAD) Now, let's think about everyone that has been banned by either Luigi, Chip or you. Abdul, Tom, Minoi(?) All because of that stupid rule 16 which makes staff authoritative dictators who can ban whoever they like for no real evidence.
Presinus	Date sent: 2017/09/17 11:58:26 Actually, I agree with Ck on the toxicity.
ckvoss	Date sent: 2017/09/17 12:24:48 And seriously ck, you label wones toxic simply because you don't agree with him. Me calling you toxic was from a different topic.Me calling you toxic was from a different topic.Me calling you toxic was from a different topic.Me calling you toxic was from a different topic.Me calling you toxic was from a different topic.Me calling you toxic was from a different topic.Im not talking about just this minoi. You are always toxic on the forums and ingame.Im not talking about just this minoi. You are always toxic on the forums and ingame.Im not talking about just this minoi. You are always toxic on the forums and ingame.Im not talking about just this minoi. You are always toxic on the forums and ingame.Im not talking about just this minoi. You are always toxic on the forums and ingame.Im not talking about just this minoi. You are always toxic on the forums and ingame. Let me explain my Minoi experience. I have been dealing with Minoi for about a year now, and I found that he is one of the most toxic people to ever come on Mushroom Co. If not THE most toxic person. He used his friends to BULLY me. Called me Autistic, retarded, etc. Minoi humiliated me every day for MONTHS. He made a faction with his friends called "ckhaters" and always bullied me every time i joined the server. Want to know something funny? I UNBANNED PEPITTE (one of his friends he used to BULLY me) and they both be very rude to me on another server. Using the excuse that it's not on Mush so it doesn't matter. To anyone not Minoi, now you understand what i have been dealing with for a year. Being bullied, embarrassed, humiliated, even after i gave of of the bullies another chance. Minoi ruins everyone's experience on the server. He is a very toxic player and annoys everyone. I've had many defaults tell me that Minoi is being very toxic and rude to them and it made them leave the server. You want to know why Minoi started hating me? I'll explain this story again. One day when i was a Builder and Dylan was Mod a player named CreeperNinja69 was being pretty annoying to people. Dylan received multiple complaints. A highly liked player (Echyyy) and CreeperNinja69 were around a tall mountain, with a steep fall. Echyyy said "jump" and CreeperNinja69 freaked out and reported to dylan that Echyyy was telling him to kill himself irl. Dylan and i both explained to him multiple times that he was wrong. Did he listen? No. Dylan had to mute him for i think a couple hours. After Dylan left, CreeperNinja69 used an alt (marioleapers) to bypass his ban. He never said who he was, and i couldn't check ips, but i knew it was him. I contacted ellie on skype and she got on and it was a match. She banned him (I would have done temp but oh well). He later was unbanned. His points are all invalid as i have proved them all wrong many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many times. You know from staff that I'm a suck up? You were staff for what? A month? I've asked Chip, Armz, and Luigi myself if I seems like i suck up to them because of the people who say i do. You know what they all 3 said? No. Nobody is scared that I will mute or ban them... You're literally making stuff up as i've seen you for 3 minutes in the past month. Rule 15 doesn't mean we can ban whoever we want. We can ban toxic people for being toxic. And no, we don't let one staff member decide on this. The staff member with the complain goes to the skype chat and asks all staff's feelings on that person. When do I "change sides"? Hopefully you don't mean the pitiful Tom example. It's funny because Jordan apologized about the part about me and stated that he was wrong. And we are cool. But you guys keep going. Now please, stop pulling ideas out of your butt to try to get me demoted or rant about me. It won't work
Tones	Date sent: 2017/09/17 12:54:38 Minoi: My inactivity if you actually bothered to scroll down far enough in the general section is explained here: http://webbcraft.co.uk/forum/read_topic.php?id=7626 This is for me to work on my tendency to be angry and to get my mind in a better place and you tend to just be breaking the rules far too much when I happen to be on, so you tend to catch my anger, I know I shouldn't do that and I am sorry for what you've had to endure of me. Although I've held my staff position for 3 years, I do not see myself giving it up anytime soon or abusing it at all.
Karbs	Date sent: 2017/09/17 13:11:07 Tones, if you have anger issues then give up your rank and comeback when you're ready. If you are dealing with your own problems then deal with them and don't try to juggle to positions at once. You seem like a good person but another well qualified person could easily replace you while you are gone so the staff team stays active. Also, Ck why are you taking someone on minecraft so seriously. You say he humiliated and bullied you, you're acting like he actually came to your school and beat you up or made you spill your lunch on yourself. This is a game. This is the online world. Not real life. Most people when they say "kys" or "stupid faggot" or "I hope you get cancer you autistic dog", would probably never mean it in real life, they just say it for banter or just to mess with you. And even if they do mean it, WHO CARES. You do not know them in real life and there is no way they can actually harm you. Whenever someone is toxic in game I just laugh or just ignore them. The only reason you feel bullied is because you're letting someone in a game get to your feelings. This is kind of sad not trying to be mean but you should just learn to grow up. xd
OfficalMinoi	Date sent: 2017/09/17 13:28:15 All i fucking did was make a post under this complaint stating my truthful opinion. Isn't that what the forums are for? I have a right to reply to this thread and state my opinion. Then ck called me toxic for doing it. Then he said he's not talking about this particular time. So if this isn't toxic, why did you even bother saying im toxic here? That's called ad hominem. Directing your argument against a person rather than the actual argument. When people use that, it shows they have no argument. "Like I've said, you shouldn't have been unbanned. You played it cool acting all nice and 2 weeks after you got unbanned you turned back into normal toxic annoying minoi." So you are saying my post on this forum is me being toxic when I scroll up and see other people critizing you but you aren't calling them toxic? Me bullying you? I've done NOTHING to you that would make me a bully LOL Argueing with you is bullying you? Especially when you have more power over me? Don't you notice how i'm not allowed to call you names but you can call me names? For example vango called you a piece of crap, if I did that I would be in a big lot of trouble. It's hilarious you think you are being bullied. You are just pulling the victim card. And you mentioned you unbanned pepitte. What do I have to do with your decision to unban pepitte? Whether or not she deserved to be banned has nothing to do with me. You are basically saying I had influence over whether or not you unbanned her. So are you saying if pepitte was still banned, and she made a ban appeal, you wouldnt unban her? I have nothing to do with her appeal. I just asked you to look at it. Your descion to unban her should have NOTHING to do with me. You just proved your descions are influenced by bias.
ckvoss	Date sent: 2017/09/17 13:38:49 It hurts my head reading what you say.
OfficalMinoi	Date sent: 2017/09/17 14:18:22 Again he has no argument.
Sauasgeman	Date sent: 2017/09/17 16:44:09 Bro ck is legit one of the best staff members. What the fuck you mean he is one of the worst and he can't take a joke? This dude also jokes around and is always up to mess around when he isn't doing his fucking job. Actually log onto the server and see how this dude helps and takes a joke. Also he's a daddy at skywars Sorry tones I don't know you well :( good luck fighting for your side ~Sauasgeman
armzngunz	Date sent: 2017/09/17 18:27:04 None of these problems are that bad. They do not warrant anything close to a demote, at most a warning imo. Ck is fine, I see him make jokes and hve fun etc whenever I see him, he did a mistake once in forums post, who cares. Susan never ever tells me to come online to deal with stuff, nor have I ever seen or heard about her ignoring griefers or spammers. I will say though, some staff do "ignore" spammers at times, especially when cht is very fast moving and when dealing with other stuff, like helping someone, it can be hectic, I admit I've done it at times. Minoi, you've come off as rude sometimes, so Susan has reacted to that, not saying calling you names is a good thing, I'm saying it was most likely for a reason. Also, some staff have previously been dealing with stuff irl, yet they were never told they had to give up their positions. A temporary break is way better, if needed anyways.
creeperninja69	Date sent: 2017/09/19 14:59:23 oi ck, wrong username in ur paragraph with dylan as mod in it. i wasnt on mush at all while dylan was mod .-.
Miss_Awesome_2	Date sent: 2017/09/19 16:44:28 so because abdullah was being mean to chip, chip decided to tell him to kill himself.. mature
Presinus	Date sent: 2017/09/20 01:27:42 @Minoi I can say everyone on the server is a cunt, and even if that was my true opinion, I'd still be toxic for saying it. Stop trying to use your "right of opinion" as an excuse to be toxic.

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