Author | Message |
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Presinus |
Date sent: 2018/05/08 20:32:33
I suggest we make a donator rank equivalent to co-owner, so we can take them off the staff team without taking away those permissions and commands they paid so much for.For example: Chip_Bruh is still on the staff board even though he hasn't logged on for 2 months and 15 days now, but he paid a lot of cash for his rank, so now we can't take him off the staff board. Consider giving him and Armz &6[&4Architect&6]+ ~ |
luigiofthebakery Moderator |
Date sent: 2018/05/09 03:05:09
What's the difference with him being or not being on the staff board if he still has the same permissions? The staff board is meant to display players with a certain level of permissions, staff. |
CCShad Moderator |
Date sent: 2018/05/09 06:59:04
Well using that logic shouldn’t that mod from 2012 (Bowser something I think?) who was allowed to keep his rank of mod be put on the board?Both him and Chip don’t play anymore, so what’s the difference between them? |
Presinus |
Date sent: 2018/05/09 11:26:30
Then why don't we put Ross back on the staff board? Why would any staff who donated money for their rank resign at all? Why would we take them off the staff board? |
Pheonix2000ad |
Date sent: 2018/05/09 22:11:22
im sorry luigi but you are stupidI realised that i've been treating you like a robot that you cant reason with as im just used to everything you say making little to no sense. You don't make any logical decisions anymore unless money is involved. Your head just isn't screwed on anymore, I can only begin to imagine the countless brain cells other players and I have lost over the months just from slamming our heads into the keyboard trying to decipher your utter nonsense |
luigiofthebakery Moderator |
Date sent: 2018/05/10 15:11:53
Pheo unlike you, I actually presented a logical argument in my comment, and there are numerous logical arguments I've presented in the past regarding Chip's demotion. All I read from you in that post was some nonsense that added nothing to the discussion.@Presinus - Ross resigned from the staff team, indicating that he no longer wants to continue serving as staff. That's perfectly fine, it's like a donator who wanted their permission for creative mode removed because they wanted to play exclusively in survival mode and didn't want to resist the temptation to switch gamemode, which has happened before. Staff resign because they know they won't be able to continue their commitment in the future. Someone who just goes inactive may have an intention of returning in the future. @CCShad - I think you mean Mercuris, who was a moderator in 2012, who technically should be listed on the staff board, but as a placeholder. Since all the moderator slots are full with active staff there's no need for a placeholder. I think a lot of people continue to miss the point about Chip's situation, the main reason he isn't being demoted for inactivity is not because he paid for his rank (although that is a factor), it's that there is no need for his position to be filled. The staff team is in a unique situation right now whereby there are 3 free admin slots already, so even if we needed more active staff, there wouldn't be a need for demotions. Despite Chip being inactive, there is still a chance he will become active again and be able to staff. If he's demoted, that chance reduces to 0. So, that's why having an inactive, potentially active staff member in the future is better than having just one more free spot on the staff board. |
alpacafarm |
Date sent: 2018/05/10 16:18:12
If chip suddenly becomes active again, it will be kind of messed up that he can leave the server in the dust without any consequences. with this logic, we should of kept tones |
luigiofthebakery Moderator |
Date sent: 2018/05/11 01:11:24
You're right, we should have kept tones. |
alpacafarm |
Date sent: 2018/05/11 01:29:48
OOF |
Pheonix2000ad |
Date sent: 2018/05/11 07:09:27
What a spanner. I’m so shocked you actually believe this shit your saying. Literally the rest of the staff think that you’ve lost it. This is becoming painful |
Tye |
Date sent: 2018/05/11 19:36:00
Jordan was kicked from staff for inactivity, so was Susan, what makes Chip any different. Also, if Loki is the owner why is he not able to make the decision to remove chip? |
Michael9999995 |
Date sent: 2018/05/12 17:32:37
Tye has a point. Loki should be in charge, no offence luigi, but this server isn't yours anymore. You should give loki the ability to form his own staff board and you should have zero control in it. It is Loki's server now. |
luigiofthebakery Moderator |
Date sent: 2018/05/13 07:08:59
Chip paid me for the co-owner rank though, not loki. Therefore it's my responsibility to ensure he continues to have use of that rank. Loki is the main manager but part of the exceptions in the deal that we made was that I would continue to manage donations and pay for the server's upkeep cost. |
Pheo |
Date sent: 2018/05/13 09:11:36
luigiofthebakeryDate sent: 2018/05/13 07:08:59 Translation: I like money. Chip gave me money. Chip and I have an agreement to keep his place which I will uphold as he has given me money. It is my decision if I keep chip as staff. I am the owner. Loki also gave me money but he is not actually owner. He paid me for an owner prefix with no actual authority, what a dweeb! All worked out for me though as I don't actually enjoy minecraft anymore but I have no reason to leave it as I am still getting money from it! Besides, why would I put any effort into the server and creating anything new? I can just sell old things like maps that take less effort and still get me money! |
luigiofthebakery Moderator |
Date sent: 2018/05/13 15:28:41
@Pheo I have tried many, many new things on the server while I was managing it, a lot of them were great additions, and a lot of them were gimmicks where players lost interest after a while (survival games, ucars, mob arena). Loki is now the manager of the server, he has console access and file access which are all the tools he needs to be able to create new things for the server. I'm more than willing to help him out doing things, but he should be the one to take initiative on it. After all, that's part of what he paid for: when he first suggested it, I was convinced he was very enthusiastic about improving the server and it would be beneficial for everyone. |
Tye |
Date sent: 2018/05/13 18:23:45
@Luigi: So if Loki hasn't been on in 6 months, but still wants to be owner, would you let him? |
Pyrrhus |
Date sent: 2018/05/14 14:37:39
I mean Luigi does has a point. Whats the point of demoting someone if there isn't someone else to take that spot? I imagine when time does come for someone to take the spot of co owner Chip will be demoted. |
Presinus |
Date sent: 2018/05/14 20:35:59
I'm saying staff ranks and donator ranks shouldn't be treated the same. A good staff team needs standards. Sure, donating to get the rank is one thing, but treating them like donator ranks isn't right. Any inactive staff should lose the spot on the team regardless of whether or not they donated.Go ahead and put them on the board when they return, but until then, at least label it vacant. Find a placeholder rank you could give him. Let him have his commands, but not his title. |
luigiofthebakery Moderator |
Date sent: 2018/05/15 05:36:31
@Tye No, because unlike the co-owner rank, we actually need someone who is active in the owner rank. Co-owner isn't even a necessary rank in the first place since their duties can just as easily be done by admins or the head admin. |
GraetiztGamer |
Date sent: 2018/05/15 09:46:56
VIVA COMMUNISM |
Tye |
Date sent: 2018/05/16 23:50:59
That's why we should remove the position in whole, the server was ran just fine before Co-Owner was introduced to make Armz feel unique, and Chip just got jealous. Just remove the position, and either have him fill in for the vacant Admin position until someone is suitable, or remove him altogether. Literally, no one wants him. You can read above and many other posts of the whole community against it. |
Pheonix2000ad |
Date sent: 2018/05/17 10:48:31
with tye on this one, move chip to admin and seen as there is no other admin candidates he can keep that position for a while. Fills the staff board without making it obvious that the supposed co-owner doesn't even play |
CaptainSpaceSheep |
Date sent: 2018/05/19 04:52:37
Luigi, why aren’t you the co-owner? Swap yourself with Chip to better reflect what you actually do |
Aouldrain |
Date sent: 2018/05/20 14:05:34
Or just demote chip. He's so fucking garbage at co-owner that he hasn't been on in 2 months. |
loki570023 |
Date sent: 2018/05/22 06:14:04
3* |
Aouldrain |
Date sent: 2018/05/22 19:38:11
Even more reason.We should skin him and hang it at spawn. |
Diamond_Launcher |
Date sent: 2018/05/27 04:19:40
I think what people don't understand is that if we demote chip there is no one to fill his space as there are already 3 vacant admin spaces. Luigi does have a point. Once there is someone to take his place he can be demoted but for now we need staff to fill out the vacant spaces. We don't have many staff anymore. |
Presinus |
Date sent: 2018/05/27 10:29:23
We don't need his spot filled. Even then, he's as good as an empty spot considering he's been offline for 3 months. |
Ranthar |
Date sent: 2018/05/27 19:11:36
+1 for demote. If any other staff did that, they would be long gone. Just because he paid for it, he should not have special treatment. |
CaptainSpaceSheep |
Date sent: 2018/05/28 01:33:14
we should have kept me too |
Diamond_Launcher |
Date sent: 2018/05/28 07:12:14
Your right pres. DEMOTE CHIP. no CSS your a |
Diamond_Launcher |
Date sent: 2018/05/28 07:13:35
err it was supposed to be a picture :< |
Tye |
Date sent: 2018/05/28 13:19:57
**Admin: Removed 7123 instances of 4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wCEAAkGBxMTEhUTExMVFhU** |
luigiofthebakery Moderator |
Date sent: 2018/05/29 09:20:55
Diamond_Launcher, remember to use the img tags when linking an image. Highlight the image link or data and then click the 'Image' button just above the input box. It also has bold, italic, underlined, link, left, center and right. |
pr1tce |
Date sent: 2018/06/06 05:02:55
seriously just demote chip its been like 3 months |
thomasjones |
Date sent: 2018/06/06 17:25:29
Pfff you kept Chip as staff but not me. Can't believe u disriminating againts me for being a Nazi. #NaziLivesMatter |