Pheo's Ban Appeal V4

Author	Message
Pheonix2000ad	Date sent: 2018/06/21 05:27:26 Username: Pheonix200ad When were you banned: 5 hours ago Why were you banned: For 'not caring about the server' This has me shook. Having been unbanned for the incident with CK I was under the impression that there was a clean slate and I would have the chance to at least log on. I have literally committed no other crime on the server since returning. I have been rebanned for the exact same offences I was just unbanned for on the admission that 'I don't care about the server' even though I clearly do as im writing this appeal. The fact i've got unbanned through arguing the rules rather than begging for an unban means that I can get rebanned this easy for stupid stuff like this. Bottom line is, whether you think I deserved to be unbanned from the CK incident or not, the staff decided that I did and they unbanned me. Since then all I have said to anyone was that I don't really care about the server after I lost my rank.
Pheonix2000ad	Date sent: 2018/06/21 05:43:14 For my final trick: Here is the photo of CK's dad which according to randal got me banned in the first place. 'but pheo, that wasn't the photo that got you banned'
alpacafarm	Date sent: 2018/06/21 08:54:56 Now i now the true story and this is extremely messed up. +1 banned for no reason
Presinus	Date sent: 2018/06/21 11:20:26 HAHAHAHAHAHA nice dad you got there! +1
Aouldrain	Date sent: 2018/06/21 13:04:44 What the fuck +1
Pheonix2000ad	Date sent: 2018/06/21 20:33:10 Thanks for the support guys, note how Randal and CK managed to discuss with eachother and confirm that the above meme was infact a photo of his dad and was ban worthy.... hmmmm
thomasjones	Date sent: 2018/06/21 20:44:05 OMFG the server has gone to shit...
Aouldrain	Date sent: 2018/06/21 22:24:03 Ckvoss is at a ckloss motherfuckers
IAmSavannah	Date sent: 2018/06/21 22:27:06 Lmao ok then +1
Tye	Date sent: 2018/06/21 23:54:06 meant to +1 on here but same statement applies.
Beetlejuice71	Date sent: 2018/06/22 01:23:27 +1.
ckvoss	Date sent: 2018/06/22 02:48:33 no i didnt confirm that photo
ckvoss	Date sent: 2018/06/22 02:49:36
Randal	Date sent: 2018/06/22 03:44:53 no no no. you have it all wrong here pheo. The photo that Ck had confirmed was the picture of him that you had sent to a player on the server, not that meme.
Pheonix2000ad	Date sent: 2018/06/22 06:35:27 No no no. Randal you have got it all wrong. When I need to justify myself and appeal my ban I need to prove everything you say wrong where as you can just throw inaccurate accusations just because you want me banned. Randal: Doxing and confirmation from doxxed player = ban 5:55pm Me and Ranthars conversation: 22:50pm you have made an absolute mess here and every time you try to justify this you dig yourself deeper. Also, if CK claims not to have confirmed that photo then it means you have also lied there too. So Mr. Logan-Paul-Dab over here has not just got himself an 'epic rekt' but has actually just landed you in an even bigger hole.
nuddel365	Date sent: 2018/06/22 06:41:38 +1 <3 dont fuck around with my boi pheo
loki570023	Date sent: 2018/06/22 07:37:06 Appeal denied. Again you gloss over the fact that this incident alone isnt what got you banned. And no, the staff didnt decide to unban you. I did. After hearing everything from like 5 or 6 people, including at least 3 staff, I took a vote. The combination of YOUR admission that you did these things ON PURPOSE to mess with ck, aka repeated toxicity, AND the past incidents, i what led to you being banned. It is true that during your previous unban from past incidents you were cleared. however it is clear you learned nothing from being banned and having your appeal accepted. If it had, you wouldnt be doing the same crap over and over again. Unbanning you immediately was my decision, and my mistake. I should have waited on other opinions, so my apologies for giving false impressions about the status of your ban, however this punishment is valid, and will stand.
Pheonix2000ad	Date sent: 2018/06/22 09:38:17 But we’ve just agreed that I didn’t do what I was banned for... A lot of people can join me in smashing heads on keyboards trying to understand how this decision was made I’m confused after it’s clear staff have lied on this ban and even this thread yet I am still in the wrong Also would like to remind everyone that the only offence I’ve committed is (light toxicity) to ck on the discord, yet I am banned from the server
Aouldrain	Date sent: 2018/06/22 21:15:29 Jesus christ, Randal's a poor excuse for a staff member #demoterandal
Aouldrain	Date sent: 2018/06/23 00:34:13 lol ck edited his comment to just say "no i didn't confirm that photo" instead of the long comeback he typed out about how he confirmed a "different photo" fucking god damn bullshit if I do say so myself
DanTheCook	Date sent: 2018/06/23 07:15:20 @Loki Honestly, and I say this with no harmful intent to the homosexual community, that's really gay. No where in the rules does it say that a persons can be banned for misbehavior on the discord, or any other entity separate from the server. That's what this whole incident revolves around, isn't it? Also, what ever happened to no double jeopardy. You say: "the staff didnt decide to unban [Pheonix2000ad]. I did. After hearing everything from like 5 or 6 people, including at least 3 staff, I took a vote. The combination of YOUR admission that you did these things ON PURPOSE to mess with ck, aka repeated toxicity, AND the past incidents, i what led to you being banned." What I'm getting from this is that you initially unbanned him, some people told you some things that changed your mind again and you rebanned him for the same offence? Look, I could give two flying flips about Pheonix, and he probably is a fag, offense to the homosexual community*. HOWEVER, banning someone for something that happened on another platform is gay, rebanning someone for the same incident is gay. Wait till he messes up again -- I'm sure that will happen-- and give him a long ban (Hopefully due to an incident that is on the server). I think it would be totally justifiable to give Pheonix a perma ban on the discord if you want, if you all are butt-hurt enough about some words and some pixels, but a ban on the server is gay. Side note: Just cause Pheonix admitted to "[doing] these things ON PURPOSE to mess with ck," doesn't mean Pheonix was being toxic or harassing. My bet is he wanted a little quick reaction out CK like "oh my how did you find that picture of my dad! You sly dog, you" Not the butt hurt response that was poorly dished out. Look, the server is at a five year low, I really hope it is just a statisical lull and the player count will soon start climbing again, but I doubt it. So if effort is going to be put into getting mad at mundane things instead of enjoying the fleeting happiness the server might bring, so be it. But I just think its dumb. *That was a joke btw. See how I introduced how I didn't want to offend the homosexuals in the beginning, then later said I meant to be offensive? That is what is called a Callback.
Pheonix2000ad	Date sent: 2018/06/23 10:18:10 Couldn’t have said it better myself. Stop wasting your effort on stupid bans and focus on your server. And for the record Dan, I am actually gay
Michael9999995	Date sent: 2018/06/23 13:37:18 This is actually bullshit at this point wtf. +1
JasonSchonko	Date sent: 2018/06/24 11:09:41 +1
ckvoss	Date sent: 2018/06/24 14:46:52 wait wtf Aouldrain ck edited his comment to just say "no i didn't confirm that photo" instead of the long comeback he typed out about how he confirmed a "different photo" i didn't ever do that... wtf did a forum mod change it? My bet is he wanted a little quick reaction out CK like "oh my how did you find that picture of my dad! You sly dog, you" Not the butt hurt response that was poorly dished out. You think I'm stupid or something? Why would anyone let that go that easily? It wasn't a butt hurt response LOL
pr1tce	Date sent: 2018/06/24 15:53:01 +1 pheo did nothing wrong
thomasjones	Date sent: 2018/06/24 16:49:28 +1 #FreePheo
Presinus	Date sent: 2018/06/24 20:22:51 i didn't ever do that... wtf did a forum mod change it? I call bs You think I'm stupid or something? I'm starting to believe it. Why would anyone let that go that easily? Because it caused you no harm. I myself certainly wouldn't have reacted anywhere near as strongly as you did. It wasn't a butt hurt response LOL Yes it certainly was. Also that passive-aggressive "LOL" really says something. Reminds me of Minoi during his time of defensiveness and accused toxicity.
CCShad Moderator	Date sent: 2018/06/25 02:13:03 I know it's been denied already, but -1 this time around, Pheo. And I'd like to explain my vote along with the ban reason as I believe there's a lot of confusion around it. You were banned for excessive toxicity, which anyone can tell you is true. In fact I don't think I've seen you contribute anything to the server other than toxicity in 5+ months. While committing your most recent offense you were warned multiple times by Loki, James and myself that if you continued you would be banned on both the discord and server, which you disregarded. This alone is enough to keep you banned, but I still need to explain why such a harsh warning was given, and how the whole ban unfolded. The reason such a harsh warning was given ("If you continue you'll be banned both here and on the server") was due to repeated offenses, all you do is break the rules as subtly as you can and then when you get punished for it play the victim card. This certainly wasn't the first time you went after Ck. And he isn't alone, you "bully" anyone who you dislike, such as Randito. Along with that you just have a generally toxic attitude on the server, insulting players and complaining. I won't include the things you did before your previous ban (The one 5ish months). I'm -1ing because you knew what you were doing was wrong, you knew you were on your last straw, and you knew if you continued you would be banned on both the discord and on the server. You had your chance and you blew it. Now a lot of things about this appeal are incorrect, so I'll go ahead and correct them. "Why were you banned: For 'not caring about the server' You were banned for constant toxicity, proving us right that you had learned nothing from any of your past ban time. This has me shook. Having been unbanned for the incident with CK I was under the impression that there was a clean slate and I would have the chance to at least log on. I have literally committed no other crime on the server since returning. I have been rebanned for the exact same offences I was just unbanned for on the admission that 'I don't care about the server' even though I clearly do as im writing this appeal. The fact i've got unbanned through arguing the rules rather than begging for an unban means that I can get rebanned this easy for stupid stuff like this. You were unbanned by mistake, the staff member that did this failed to post any info about this in the staff chat unban section. You were rebanned and had the ban discussed further which ended up with having you stay banned. "For my final trick: Here is the photo of CK's dad which according to randal got me banned in the first place." It's true that this is what got you banned in the first place, as you claimed it was Ck's dad. We had to ban you at this point as it could've really been his dad for all we knew. But it was later confirmed that it wasn't. The reason you were kept banned was because you had still continued after being warned time after time again, Posting pictures with the pure intent of causing annoyance or harm to a player. tl;dr: You broke the rules, you got warned, you broke the rules some more, you got banned. What's the problem?
MaxWreck	Date sent: 2018/06/25 05:35:33 I haven't seen such transparency on a ban appeal, and i must say that's it's something that helps to clarify it all. I knew that the decision was categoric from the staff, but it felt unclear from most people why Pheo was actually banned. Seeing both sides of the medals helps everyone, a lot. Now it just want to see Pheo's answer.
Pheonix2000ad	Date sent: 2018/06/26 14:56:12 I appreciate such a reply from an actual staff member who still cares. While this is very transparent, most of the content seems to just be quotes from me. I also think that quite a lot of what I have already posted on this appeal goes against some of these claims: It's true that this is what got you banned in the first place, as you claimed it was Ck's dad. We had to ban you at this point as it could've really been his dad for all we knew. But it was later confirmed that it wasn't. The photo was confirmed before I was banned. The screenshot of Randal shows this. When I posted this is was deleted for hours before it was 'confirmed' and then I was banned. Staff decided they had evidence and it was not a precaution. My original ban was also not a 'mistake' as no new information has come to light since. On my ban I was placed in a group with Randal and CK as I was to apologise to stop this from happening in the future. As instead of apologising I somewhat held my ground a justified my decision i was rebanned. This was not a misunderstanding, it was retaliation that I was not bending over. Before i am continued to be made the bad guy, here is the charming response i got from CK However I think its time to move on with the server. Even the owner Luigi admitted that some of the things happening are killing the server. If you want something doing right, do it yourself.
CCShad Moderator	Date sent: 2018/06/26 22:47:51 The photo Randito confirmed was the picture of Ck that you censored, not the one of his """dad""". At the time I had thought he meant the other one, sorry for any confusion there. And yes, your original unban was a mistake. As I said, the staff member who unbanned you did not follow the proper procedures that is expected of any unban, They did not make a post in the staff discord about it, or even hold a vote.
wones9	Date sent: 2018/06/26 23:43:54 CCShad you are a complete hypocrite. Like I said, when my picture was posted on here, you issued a three day ban, but you seem to value a former staff members dad's privacy a lot more showing how immature and biased your system is
CCShad Moderator	Date sent: 2018/06/27 03:29:41 You know the photo Pheo sent wasn't really Ck's dad, right? Pheo was banned for constant toxicity and proving that he had learned nothing from his past punishments, did you even read the post or replies? Edit: I had originally thought Wones had meant Pr1tce, but he actually meant ImTyeDye, removing this as I'm unfamiliar with the case of Tye atm Punishment lengths aren't just as simple as "you did this so you get perm banned", we actually take the situation into account so it's fair.
Pheonix2000ad	Date sent: 2018/06/29 20:04:07 I love how this has gone from me being banned for doxxing to me being banned for toxicity this is the typical "proved us wrong, pick a different reason" the ban roulette continues
wones9	Date sent: 2018/06/30 20:40:50 So, he gets banned for doxxing ck's dad, you realize it's not actually ck's dad, so instead of unbanning him like an ethical human being, you just decide to change his ban reason to cover ur ass... Guys, don't fucking think ccshad is one of the "good ones" because he puts up an act. He's just as corrupt as the rest of them
Guiness4	Date sent: 2018/07/01 15:18:35 so matey is upset you ddoxed him what a pussy. your dad molested you. and my internet is shit so ddoss me it might make it faster
ckvoss	Date sent: 2018/07/03 01:17:13 he broke the rules get over it. Before i am continued to be made the bad guy, here is the charming response i got from CK Yes, you still are the "bad guy" because you changed to try to attempt to get unbanned by making me accept your apology.
Aouldrain	Date sent: 2018/07/03 01:42:38 Ck, you lied to staff to get him banned, I'm pretty sure you're the bad guy here.
thomasjones	Date sent: 2018/07/03 16:13:49 Amen Aouldrain. Also you say that Pheo is banned for toxity however if he wasn't banned for "doxing" ck, which he is proven to be innocent, Pheo wouldn't be banned now. And you can't argue that he was going to be banned anyways for toxicity because you would of banned him before this incident.
Karbs	Date sent: 2018/07/04 19:48:13
Diamond_Launcher	Date sent: 2018/07/08 02:32:04 There are two completely different stories and two different pictures. Someone is lying and I think I know who it is but for now I'm going to Abstain. The fact that Pheo didn't get his money back is complete bullshit. Why can't staff unban Pheo and move on instead of talking bullshit and lies. This is why the server will turn dead
ckvoss	Date sent: 2018/07/09 14:54:25 Aouldrain the more you say that I lied the more you look stupid. Diamond you obviously don't know the story.
Aouldrain	Date sent: 2018/07/09 15:31:27 How the fuck do I look stupid for telling the truth?
wones9	Date sent: 2018/07/09 19:17:52 Ck, nobody thinks he looks stupid, we all just think you look stupid. You're getting roasted.
Diamond_Launcher	Date sent: 2018/07/11 12:35:26 Ck, no one except you and pheo know the full story.
Pheonix2000ad	Date sent: 2018/07/11 21:22:24 Accepted

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