Fraud makes an appeal

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PerishedFraud	Date sent: 2021/06/25 09:21:39 Username: PerishedFraud Why you were banned: Xray When you were banned: Now The TLDR: I don't use Xray or any other advantages bar Optifine. I know my mining patterns were probably really off. I never paid mind to it while playing, so all I can do is mine less randomly in the future. I can easily call them suspicious now that I'm looking back, but it wasn't in my thoughts while playing for obvious reasons. I'm hoping that my clean record and generally good intentions can help with this appeal, especially considering how glad I was to find this place still alive and kicking. I've never liked getting one over other people and I still don't. The long wall of text appeal: I'm hoping that people remember my earlier stay at this server and that I generally didn't engage in anything shady back then either. It's the only reason why I'm making this application instead of waiting it out. I know that if people remember me, they'd also know that I didn't do dirty tactics, disrespect, or hacks. I still don't. I understand that appealing an Xray ban pretty much falls down to trustworthiness. I also know that convincing someone in a debate based on suspicion isn't really possible. I've been in both the position of being accused of Xraying and in the position of investigating players for it in the past (considering how long I've had the game for, this should not be surprising). I can tell when mining is suspicious and I'm sure that my own was. It just wasn't something I ever thought about while playing. I've dug straight to ores and made 1x holes at random and I know from experience that it can look like abuse. That is, I recognize this now, looking back at it. "Does my mining look suspicious?" is just not a thought I had while playing, I just did random shit and it worked. Consdering the points above, here's my "official" defense: -I have no issue being observed in the future. I can guarantee that nothing suspicious will be found. -I have no issues being reprimanded in case the appeal is not believable, but I also think that a ban has nothing to achieve. Case in point, the only change I would make upon my return, if I were to wait the ban out, would be to strip mine more instead of digging random tunnels. If you concluded that I got ores too fast, removing my tools and watching me in the future is probably a better move. The grind would hurt, but not as much as being labeled a cheater. and finally -As someone who joined this place ages ago at first (My off-time was used to finish university, fyi), I've always stuck to a policy that I shouldn't be detrimental to other people in the game. In case you've reached this point of the appeal and aren't convinced, all I can do is call upon my clean record and ask for mercy. (Again, I have no issue being observed in the future.) Thanks for reading. When I rejoined a while ago, I was pleasantly surprised to see this place was updated and still up. I was looking forward to fun times here in the future, so this ban has thoroughly fucked me up, all things considered. PS: Sorry if it sounds too serious or too silly. I tried to keep the appeal as no-nonsense as possible but It's been years since I've made one. Am more used to just meming around.
zombiekilla	Date sent: 2021/06/25 09:44:40 +1 PerishedFraud has always been a really respectful, helpful, and overall great guy to chat to and to work with on the server. Although the admin team seems to have overwhelming evidence that he was using some sort of X-Ray cheat, I believe he should be given a second chance, no matter what happened, because of his record on the server. I wish you luck in coming back to the server, friend.
CCShad Moderator	Date sent: 2021/06/25 09:57:17 -1 I decided to look into it myself, after reading the moderator report on the ban and seeing you chatting in the discord to see if I could getcha unbanned on the basis of an unjust suspicious, however after seeing the evidence it's simply not something I can do. To be clear, the scene we're investigating is as follows: A stairway made deep into the world, created by you one day before the suspected x-ray. On the day of the xray, 1x2 tunnels were made in several random spots, all of them are 1-point (goes directly to diamonds) or 2-points(goes straight, then turns for 1 to 5 blocks before hitting diamond) Not a single one of these 1x2 tunnels was a "miss", they all lead to diamonds. Upon viewing the scene with an investigative x-ray pack, we can confirm you mined every diamond in a 6-chunk area, except one vein that was underneath and in the opposite direction of the stairwell which would've been inconvenient to mine to. Every short tunnel stops after hitting diamond, the longest tunnel is a mere 30 blocks straight, 4 blocks to the left before it hits diamond.
PerishedFraud	Date sent: 2021/06/25 10:13:40 The percentage statistic seems to paint an even-more suspicious image. There is not much I can do against statistics, as they point towards me probably cheating, and even knowing that I'm not the fact that the statistics point towards it cannot be refuted. Here's what I can say, and it sadly isn't much. 1: I have no access to these kinds of analytics while playing. There's a good degree of irony here but if I actually used xray - something I've done in the past, though not here, I wouldn't have left such a track due to knowing how it looked in context. Of course this point implies that you trust in my lack of stupidity, which is not something I can expect considering I'm just a random guy or an aquiantance for most people here, but it's worth considering. (note that I played from fairly early since release. Of course I had my fair share of hacking in the past, as most players do.) 2. While I remain adamant that I did not abuse anything, there is value in asking how I'd be treated if I pleaded guilty. The fact remains that no matter the verdict, I'll continue playing without being a hinderance to others, as I've done before. If i really had used xray, this appeal would've been a heartfelt apology. So, the question is, would that have done anything for me? There aren't really any other actions I can take since the whole thing is based on randomness and statistics. With every point explored my only options left would be pleading for mercy or just waiting, be it an unban or a reduction. I suppose I could always just spam appeals but I refuse to go that low. I'm still open to being observed in future play, as I have nothing to hide, but as of now, my fate is in your hands.
Shrimpyyy	Date sent: 2021/06/26 01:22:05 +1 In the short time that I've known Perished, he has seemed very cool. However, I am not able to agree or disagree with Perished as I did not know him for a very long time. On the other hand, their other points do make sense. I believe in giving in people second chances (not saying if Perished did or didn't xray, this is a case in which he did), and I also agree that perhaps a temp-ban might have been more appropriate. From an admin's perspective, I agree that Perished does look extremely suspicious. HOWEVER, I think that giving second chances and letting people redeem their trustworthiness is important. For example, even Hypixel, one of the largest minecraft servers, doesn't perm-ban people for hacking/xraying. All in all, even if I might not be able to agree with either side on whether or not Perished was xraying, I think that giving a second chance is important, and is important in future cases as well. -Shrimpyyy
L3genD	Date sent: 2021/06/27 04:22:44 -1 Whilst your appeal is well written out and genuine, unfortunately the evidence really isn't in your favour. You claim that your tunnels are just 'suspicious', but I think that Shad's comment and the evidence proves that they are more than just that. You dug straight to diamonds in multiple tunnels, and it seems you just stopped and made a new tunnel straight to diamonds as soon as you had reached diamonds in your current tunnel. Little staircases like this straight to diamonds are very common in X-ray cases. It would make no sense for you to just make a little staircase at the end of a mine and coincidentally find diamonds there other than in the circumstance of you using an X-ray texture pack. This screenshot here shows a turn in your tunnel straight to diamonds. This is another common sign of an X-ray. Now, arguably people do turn directions in their mines due to water, lava, or anything else obstructing them from going straightforward, but I checked myself and there was absolutely nothing that would have made you turn to the left other than the fact that you could see that there was diamonds a few blocks to your left using X-ray. I know that you tried to say that it was 'suspicious' mining, but come on man, there is no way that you just coincidentally found diamonds a few blocks after 'randomly' changing directions in your mine. Here's another screenshot where you mine straight to diamonds yet again, however in this one, you mine diagonally, yet somehow straight to diamonds. You wanted to get them diamonds as fast as possible, and as they weren't in a radius where you could mine straightforward to them, you made a diagonal tunnel. I see no other explanation for this tunnel. Yet again you've managed to make a turn in your tunnel not only straight to one batch of diamonds, but you actually continued to go further and suspiciously mine your way to two more batches. Also, to address the previously clean slate subject, we've had a lot of people with previous clean slates X-ray here on Mush, it's sadly a lot more common than you'd think. Whilst having a clean slate can back you up in some scenarios, I believe that the evidence here proves to be another case of an old player returning and X-raying. -Dan
PerishedFraud	Date sent: 2021/06/27 07:44:59 Iunno. Seems like you've specifically selected the most-suspicious tunnels you could find. Thing is, if there was nothing suspicious, I wouldn't be here making an appeal to begin with. What you've done is the equivalent of post "btw, this person was banned". I know what I did and didn't do. I also know that I certainly didn't spend my time just digging straight to diamonds. It happened far too commonly which is why we're here to begin with, but there are also similar digs that lead nowhere, which no one will ever bring up because that's how these accusations always work. Point 1 from my previous post also applies. I don't have access to admin tools/plugins/hacks while playing. I can't/couldn't tell how suspicious it looks. I could only assume, and ironically, had I had xray on me I would've avoided making it look too incriminating. Your post still stands as a monument of how there isn't any defense against xray accusations, and there's still nothing I can do against it other than ask for mercy and wait. Very reminiscent of those witch hunt stories.
CCShad Moderator	Date sent: 2021/06/27 08:39:20 Unfortunately, in terms of proving your innocence you can only request more investigations; however thus far their results have only incriminated you further. PerishedFraud posted: I know what I did and didn't do. I also know that I certainly didn't spend my time just digging straight to diamonds. It happened far too commonly which is why we're here to begin with, but there are also similar digs that lead nowhere, which no one will ever bring up because that's how these accusations always work. Actually, the stairway/cave that contains all the suspected x-ray instances does not have similar digs that lead nowhere, every single tunnel is a "hit" as I said in my original response. After much investigation by several staff members, we simply can't acknowledge it as anything other than x-ray. This appeal has been denied
Asriel	Date sent: 2021/06/28 07:33:29 lmao what a guy
PerishedFraud	Date sent: 2021/06/28 08:58:20 Thank you for your help Asriel.

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